jesus seat – The Poker Capitalist Sun, 05 Mar 2017 00:11:20 +0000 en-US hourly 1 Jesus Seat In Poker – Snipe It! /jesus-seat-poker/ /jesus-seat-poker/#respond Fri, 06 Jan 2017 07:00:31 +0000 /?p=1729 The Jesus Seat as it has become known is one of the most important and underrated aspects of table selecting. One of the reasons most players struggle to win at poker is because they don’t understand some of the final details such as the importance of the Jesus Seat. Heck, there are probably a good… Continue Reading Jesus Seat In Poker – Snipe It!

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The Jesus Seat as it has become known is one of the most important and underrated aspects of table selecting. One of the reasons most players struggle to win at poker is because they don’t understand some of the final details such as the importance of the Jesus Seat. Heck, there are probably a good number of players who don’t even know that the term means.

What Is The Jesus Seat

The Jesus Seat is the seat directly to the left of a weak opponent (“fish”) at a poker table. Where did the name “Jesus Seat” come from? It became known as this because “miracles” tend to happen when you are in the Jesus Seat. In this case miracles means your win-rate skyrockets, which is what most players want to see happen. Have you ever seen a player run it up from $100 to $1400 at a $.5/$1 table? Generally, that only occurs when a good player has the seat to the left of a weak player. Some people say that being classified as the Jesus Seat means you have to have nits on your left as well. I disagree, simply being to the left of a maniac is enough :).

5 Reasons Why The Jesus Seat Matters

Position, position, position. We all know the importance of position in poker, and when you have the Jesus Seat you will far more frequently find yourself in a positional advantage versus a weak opponent.

  1. 3-betting and isolating opportunities arise more frequently when you have this seat. Its easy to say position matters, but what does that really mean? In this case a good tangible example is that it gives you the opportunity to isolate 3-bet before anybody else can at the table. Opponents may start 4betting light, but that isn’t frequently seen except at the highest stake levels.
  2. Post-flop you are able to see the actions of the weak player before you need to act. This can help you to avoid some sticky situations that arise when maniacs are at the table and pushing pots.
  3. You won’t get 3-bet every time that you raise. Maniacs often have very high 3-bet percentages, which makes it difficult to play hands cheaply pre flop. Seeing them act before you decide whether to open or not is a major advantage.
  4. Your Winrate will rise the more frequently you have the Jesus Seat. If winning I the ultimate goal then the jesus seat is a real thing….

Is Sniping The Jesus Seat Ethical?

Why not? Assuming that you are adhering to the terms & conditions of the website it seems just fine. If you are always jumping to the left of a weak player and they are annoyed by it then you should probably stop. However, table & seat selection are both a big part of online poker and if you want to win then you need to accept the reality that is. Poker is a brutally difficult game to win at and if you are going to stand a chance you’ll need to take advantage of almost every edge that is within the rules.

How To Get The Jesus Seat

Seating scripts are programmable to identify and snag the jesus seat. Seating scripts are becoming increasingly popular, and I recently did a pretty good product review on one, Need-4-Seat. This is the only product review I have on my website at the moment and I did so reluctantly because of the importance of this software for serious poker players.

  1. Table Camping & hopping. Opening a large number of tables and then hopping to the Jesus Seat when given a chance can be a highly effective strategy. However, with seating scripts in today’s games you may be too slow as tables fill up in seconds now.
  2. Watching open tables and immediately snagging the seat to the left manually. Before seating scripts existed, watching open tables was high effective. In todays poker games this is less frequently seen.
  3. Click, click, click when a player is sitting out and appears to be leaving in the Jesus Seat. This is a real thing and can be a highly effective strategy. If you have a seating script you won’t need to do this.

Grab my book Exploitive No Limit Holdem where I discuss exploitive strategies to help you boost your winrate.

-ThePokerCapitalist

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Table Selecting In Poker – Why It Matters /table-selecting/ /table-selecting/#respond Fri, 22 Jan 2016 06:22:17 +0000 /?p=1599 There has been a lot of chatter lately in the poker community about poker table selecting. I have discussed the topic before in my post on poker bumhunting, but I think that it is worth revisiting. This is a kickoff post for me since I will be exploring the topic of poker software in the coming… Continue Reading Table Selecting In Poker – Why It Matters

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There has been a lot of chatter lately in the poker community about poker table selecting. I have discussed the topic before in my post on poker bumhunting, but I think that it is worth revisiting. This is a kickoff post for me since I will be exploring the topic of poker software in the coming weeks. Poker software, is increasingly linked to table selecting (due to the prevalence of scripts.

What Is Poker Table Selecting?

Table selecting is the act of selecting a table and a seat. In online poker, table selecting is a bit of an art. Most partially understand the importance, but many don’t focus enough on it. Unfortunately, poker is a zero sum game (with a large rake being withdrawn) and that makes it very difficult to win at. Unless their is significant value in the game or their is an incredible rewards program it is difficult to be profitable. Following the recent PokerStars VIP Changes it is even more difficult to win without a weak player around. Poker networks all over the world have been cutting back significantly on player rewards, which has had the effect of intensifying poker table selecting.

Table Selecting Techniques

1) Poker Lobby Scan. Scanning the poker lobby for big pot size and/or percentage is a good starting point.

2) Start New Tables: This is one of the oldest and most effective ways to find action. Often if you start a new game a weak player will come an join.

3) Search For A Player: At high stakes games in particular this is a very popular technique. Note, some websites have eliminated the search box.

4) Computer Software In Poker: In today’s games computer software has become increasingly popular for table selecting. You can expect a post on me in the near future where I discuss this in further detail. This is the cutting edge of table selection in online poker today and is highly controversial.

Poker Table Selection and The Poker Ecosystem?

A lot has been made about the effect that poker table selecting has on the poker ecosystem. I do not feel that poker table selecting has had a significant effect on the volume of poker being played. Obviously, if a bunch of regulars would just sit and play each other (all basically losing) while the house made money on the rake, volumes would be higher. However, this is simply not a realistic expectation.

IMO, the intensity of poker table selecting in today’s poker environment is more a product of the poor position of today’s poker economy than it is the cause. Lots of player (in particular on two plus two) seem to love to run around trolling about how table selectors are causing the downfall of poker, but that is so far from being the case. Best to think of it as the symptom not the disease.

How The Poker Economy Broken

For the past decade there has been a fundamental problem with how many poker operators run their businesses. Instead of recognizing the need for recreational players, they focused on high volume regulars. This led them to compete against each other to give out the most in player rewards to players who were in many cases already significant winners at the game. Poker operators would have been far better off reinvesting those dollars toward recreational player rather than wasting them on regulars. If we look today at one of the networks that has had the most success growing their business it is Bovada. Their model is much more attractive to rec players (no rakeback for regs, max 4 tables, and fully anonymous).

In my article on Daniel Negreanu Leaving PokerStars, I referenced an interview he did where he basically said the exact same thing that I am. A classic example of the broken model is that many operators are raking microstakes games at an absurdly high level and rapidly driving away new players. Over the next 5-10 years I would expect a significant transformation to take hold across the poker industry. Only once this broken model is repaired will we once again start to see growth in the industry – dare we dream for another poker boom…..

Table Selecting Strategy

Seat selection is incredibly important in online poker. Players should sit as close to the left of a weak player as possible. Why? Because it will allow you to maximize the # of times that you are able to play pots against this weak player with position. As we all know position in poker is incredibly important. In many ways your position matters more than your absolute hand strength. Ideally you will be able to play in a highly exploitive manner with position against a weak player.

I discuss position and exploitive play frequently in my book exploitive no limit holdem. A great deal of poker literature in recent years has been focused on GTO poker, which has led many players to take their eye of the ball of what is important. I am a huge fan of GTO (but its applications are limited), and I have found through many years of experience in this game (see my article a Insights After A Decade In Poker) that the more creatively and exploitively a player thinks about the game the better they will do.

5 Table Selecting tips In Poker

  1. Snipe the “Jesus seat” An important part of table selection strategy involves getting the Jesus seat. You will frequently hear this term and it simply refers to the seat to the immediate left of a weak player. It is the most profitable or least unprofitable seat (depending on your perspective) seat to be in. Generally the only way to get the Jesus seat is to have tables up already. When a weak player is seated grab the seat to his left.
  2. Seating Scripts – these have become increasingly common and necessary at all stake levels. I did a product review for Need-4-Seat as they have a pretty good seating script.
  3. Table camping, which I have written a post on in the past.
  4. Seat hopping at short handed tables. If there are only 3-4 of you at a table and a weak player shows up, switch seats to give yourself a better position at the table.
  5. Computer software that identifies weak marked players. There are a number of companies that do this.

Best of luck at the tables! Oh and please pickup a copy of my book :).

-ThePokerCapitailst (No nonsense, no ads, straight talk on poker)

 

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Poker Bum Hunting /poker-bum-hunting/ /poker-bum-hunting/#respond Wed, 04 Jun 2014 05:57:19 +0000 /?p=764 Why Is Poker Bum Hunting Important?  Poker bum hunting is an essential technique for winning players. Poker is a zero sum game minus a cut that the house takes. So in an environment where all players are good and everybody plays game theory optimal poker EVERYBODY loses. The house takes money out of pots at… Continue Reading Poker Bum Hunting

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Why Is Poker Bum Hunting Important? 

Poker bum hunting is an essential technique for winning players. Poker is a zero sum game minus a cut that the house takes. So in an environment where all players are good and everybody plays game theory optimal poker EVERYBODY loses. The house takes money out of pots at an enormous rate especially at lower games. In fact, versus a bunch of skilled regulars (with zero recreational dollars in play) it may be impossible at a 6-max or full ring table for even some of the best in the world to win…. The bottom line is that if you are a professional poker player you need to be bum hunting / table selecting. Unless of  course unless you are a loser. There are probably a couple of notable exceptions to this if you receive a massive prize each month or massive sponsorship dollars which mean you don’t need a BB/100 winrate to win. Note: Personally I find the term derogatory and think that poker bumhunting should be called table selection.

In my recently published book “Exploitive No Limit Hold’em” I draw an analogy to business. I ask who is your biggest client at the table? Your biggest client at the table is always the recreational player / fish. Who should you spend the most time focusing on how to beat? Again the answer is simple, The fish! When a recreational player leaves the table what should you do? Post another orbit? Post 2 more orbits? Snap sit out? The reality is it makes no difference to the poker ecosystem which you do. Who benefits from you playing another 3 orbits versus other regs? The answer is the poker operator who generates more rake, and possibly (though not necessarily) the best reg at the table who has a big edge against other regs. Who loses? Again the answer is professional poker players who are playing in a zero sum game with rake being scooped at an alarming rate. Even if you have an edge over the other players over and above the rake at the game, playing that table is still taking time and attention away from other tables that you could be winning more at….

How Poker Bum hunting Works / Table Selecting Strategies

These have all been considered to be “bad for the game” and poker bum hunting by some….

1) Moving to the Jesus seat? Is this a bad thing if you have the opportunity? No, and in fact I think it is a highly profitable move and something that most players already look to do. When I start games online and a fish sits in the regs always sit to the fish left. So rather than end up with the worst seat in the house it just makes sense to move. Let me flip this question around for those that think this is so “unethical”. Why should a table starter or someone playing short handed be at a positional disadvantage? What about giving the table starter an option to choose any seat he wishes once the table fills up… Poker operators?

2) Sitting out when the fish leaves. Alright when the fish leaves the table is it ok to leave? Who benefits from the regs staying? The poker operator benefits and the players do not. This is especially the case at low games where the rake is high. I have seen some players including Phil Galfond in his post on bumhunting suggest that players should at least plays some hands. What is the magic number?  Where do you draw the line? Is it 3, 10, 20, 30? Who benefits if after a fish leaves the regs are forced to play 30 hands? Primarily only the poker operator at low games. At really high games where rake is insignificant the best of the remaining players benefits from more action.

3) Shortstacking. I talk about this extensively in my book in the chapter on “why why why 100BB”. Overall, I prefer deep stacked tables. The bigger the buy in in terms of blinds that is forced on players the better for poker players. I am fully supportive of all tables being 100BB minimum. However, that will never happen because it is bad for poker operators. Deeper buy-in games allow pros to take larger amounts from weaker players quickly and then the game shuts and the poker operator gets less rake per $1 of recreational money.

The reality is that table selecting is very good for the pocketbooks of poker players and very bad for the pocketbooks of poker operators.

Why Anonymous Poker Tables and Short Stack Tables are Bad For Players

Here are a couple of examples of what is good for operators but bad for poker players

1) Anonymous tables. I have written extensively about these tables. Why do they exist? Is it to stop bum hunting? Nooo not even close. Also, anonymous tables don’t stop bumhunting because these tables fill up whenever somebody limps at the table just like regular ones. Anonymous tables exists for one reason and one reason only. Poker operators think that they can make more money off of anonymous tables than regular tables. Why? All else being equal because anonymous tables essentially compress winrates and give regulars slightly less information to work with than they would have at regular tables.

2) Short Stack Tables. Ipoker has a ton of these 30/50 tables. I hate these games where the max buy-in is 50 BB. Why? Because again all this does is compress winrates…

If short stack tables are bad for winrates does that mean you should never play a short stack game? Absolutely not! There are tons of reasons why it may make sense in a particular situation and I talk about these in my book. Maybe it is late in a session and you are tired. Maybe you are playing higher stakes than normal on a smaller bankroll and you don’t want variance etc etc. So IMO all the players spending tons of time complaining about the poker ethics of other players they should be more focused on things that are really hurting the game.

Why is Online Poker Traffic Falling?

1) Global Ring fencing… Unfortunately, countries are choosing to segregate their players and this is terrible for the game because we are losing liquidity and recreational players can’t find the kind of games they want to play in.

2) Deposit problems… Many poker websites now require you to submit tons of documentation when you deposit before you can play. You think that somebody hopping up from the table makes the game less fun? How about a poker operator that emails requiring passport, address, utility bill, etc etc. You then send it in and it takes a few days. Then they email you back saying that black and white scan isn’t sufficient and they need color…. How much fun does this sound like? The recreational player just says screw it and goes and plays live or not at all

3) Lowered Poker Marketing Budgets! Unless the industry spends money to attract recreational players they are not going to play poker.

4) Difficulty determining who is the best! This is a problem because unlike tennis that has Roger Federer and golf that has Tiger Woods the poker world doesn’t have that. There is too much luck in the game for the best player in the world to consistently win major tournaments (which is where the public watches). As a result it is very difficult to promote a particular player and build the brand so to speak

The Ethics of Poker Bum hunting

Alright so what drives the poker economy? I think we can all agree it is recreational money…So the question is does seat switching and/or leaving games when the fish leaves hurt the game? Also, if it does hurt the game should it matter? Is there a greater good here? Does it even matter?

I talked about some really major problems hurting poker, but these are difficult to address. Poker bum hunting / table selection is at most a very minor problem in the poker economy. However poker bum hunting is a major problem for the poker operator if pros start making too much too quickly and volumes dry up, but it isn’t a huge problem for players. Volume does not always correlate with winnings. Would you rather make 10k of EV in 30k hands or 10k of EV in 100k hands? The poker operator would clearly rather see 100k hands because they make more. You however should be indifferent and probably lean toward 30k.

Alright, so lets talk briefly about this whole idea that recreational players stop playing the game because a regular switches seats on him and that recreational players leave the game because games break when they leave… Really? I have played with a lot of recreational players online and live at the WSOP, casinos in Vegas, Atlantic City, Vancouver, Nottingham, really all over the world. I have found zero evidence to suggest this. If you can prove this too me I am open to the idea but I just don’t buy it. Sure you can give me some anecdotal story about a weak player that stopped playing and said it was because the game was too predatorial. However, I am highly skeptical of the idea that a whale will reduce his gambling/poker losses as a result of a player switching seats. Also, I can also give you an anecdotal story about weak players that love the fact they are the center of attention and the games stop when they leave. In fact, these are often the biggest whales who have made tons of money in their life, have big personalities, and don’t mind throwing away $50,000 in a night playing poker. They also like the attention and all the poker players running around trying to get the scraps because in some weird sort of way it makes them feel important. Don’t forget that some people are just gamblers and they don’t stop because some reg switched to the “jesus seat” on them. Hell, in many cases they don’t even know what the jesus seat is….

The point of this post was to get players away from being ego driven. I want my readers to win! If you want to win at this game then some kind of table selecting strategy / poker bum hunting is an essential part of that. Every good poker player either knows this or does it without knowing about it. Either way the result is the same. It amazes me how little some players realize the importance of poker bum hunting / having weak players in the game.

I hope you guys enjoyed this post. Since I don’t have any advertising on my website if you are enjoying this blog please consider buying my book.

Best of luck at the tables!

Written by Paul Ratchford aka ThePokerCapitalist

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